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Proof in the pudding? Old Barbet anyone?

Last Sunday, was the xxth Barbet club match in the Netherlands. Interesting facts about what was shown there. 67% of the dogs had my Coccolina in their pedigree and out of the 75 dogs present…maximum 5 looked like what the breed should look like and that is NOT A POOFED OUT POODLE-TYPE. What does that mean? It means people are more and more breeding to breed. I like the expression and I think it sums up the issue..nicely.

So sad that now they are starting to look like the Canadian/US show dogs..and needless to say that the old breed/Vieux Barbet/Old bloodlines..would never win because judges were “taught” wrongly (misinformed), that the Barbet was a Poodle. 

And because, well…..and what is really “funny” is people are now looking for the type below and are calling/ contacting me.. for help in finding a dog with the old type. Well…I now refuse to help because in a litter you can get several types and I cannot dictate to a breeder what to do. So, the last person who called me was very angry and hung up on me..

Bottom line? 5/75 is 0.06 of the old type available…and that is very representative of what is going on worldwide. How fun?!

Nat-King de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre and mom, Iabada ( Isabeau von der Leibrücke). Typical of the old bloodline /Vieux Barbet.

Nancy Sinatra de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre

When all is said and done.

https://www.centrale-canine.fr/le-chien-de-race/barbet?fbclid=IwAR1H-WAQwulMt0tZF-803gLeOSLnlD_KWWU7PieAy26k0QTxK2qFjkvPq1Y

The Barbet club of sorts (et al) no longer exists (finally) and the Barbet has recently become an orphan breed. Mismanagement of the breed, breeding to breed, lack of any kind of knowledge about its true history which is not about “the ancestor of the Poodle” nor is it about Napoleon’s mascot. A year ago, the whole thing exploded in their faces and the result is there, with a picture at the top of the page of the one who thought greatness was an quality/fication of one’s highness and disdain and moquery of others…never mind the falsified fatherhood declarations at ye ol’ scc. So, she was caught red-handed in her lies.

Now the club is dead. Long live the new club with probably another lot of ignoramuses in what the Barbet is, looking for fame and a type of fortune, again.

The SCC deals with people and not dogs ( contrary to what we would think) and they will only work with people who get along with eachother, so the Barbet is out as long as people don’t get along with each other. This has gone on for now 35 years and doesn’t seem it will end soon. I was happy to not have to contribute to this farce after 2012 when I was escorted to the door, and liberated.

In passing, 2 of my dogs, the Griffon types ( Vieux Barbet) are represented on that page next to the Poodle types (Barbet Moderne, invented by Jean Claude Hermans). Fanny Forigoler ( haha) de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre and Tchin Tchin de la perte aux Loups ( Thelma la douce), mom to my GuyGuy>> Booly Wooly de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre..father of Fanny.

A bit of “current” history for you.

 

 

Coccolina is well..thank you!

After surgery and all it entails at a certain age, Coccolina is recovering..she had a schwanome on her paw and it needed removing before it went up her leg.

 

Griffon Boulet and Griffon Barbet..and no Poodle

I hear people telling me about old strain ( vieille souiche) or old blood, and how ALL these professional breeders here and there are working on “getting the old strain back”..and I try not to scream. That is honky bs. HOW?

I have been getting calls/emails for puppies, from France, EU countries and as far as the West coast of the USA..People, please be a bit more aware of what you are or not, asking for.A breed threatened for extinction cannot be mass produced!

Below left is the cousin of the old strain of the Barbet, the Griffon Boulet and the Griffon Barbet are first cousins. The dog on the right could be a cross between a Poodle, a SWD or the likes. It has nothing to do with a  Vieux Barbet (vieille souche/old strain). Now if all you want is the name “Barbet”..then ask for a Barbet Moderne which is a new breed re-incarnated by JC Hermans in the 1980’s by crossing Poodles. It’s equivalent to a Labradoodle. That is not what I do, nor what I have under my roof, meaning 5 generations of  Vieux Barbet/OLD STRAIN>>Vielle souche.

Many people claim Vieux Barbet in their key/TAG words, only to sell you a lovely Poodle-type. These lovely professional breeders are everywhere, even where you think you are safe. Their mission is to sell you what they produce…only.Your dog will most likely grow up to look like a NICE Poodle, but no way a Griffon Barbet ( Vieux Barbet). Call it what you wish, but it will not happen.

Lastly, for those who do ask questions..:having Ulysse in a pedigree is a sign of nothing, and certainly NOT breeding for the Vieux Barbet..

You will not tell me that the 2 dogs below are related. They are not.This is where JC Hermans, in his better days as a pseudo “historian” led everyone to belive that 100+ years ago, the Barbet was no longer a barbet but not yet a Barbet..it was out there, in limboland ( next to LalaLand..) where all socutesonice dogs crossed and became Barbet MODERNE..I was fed that line, until 2002. Then I woke up. It’s time for you all to do the same. Better late than never…before you rush off th get the latest designer..Barbet. Don’t say you had not been warned. That is another reason why I do not recommend breeders..and certainly not in France.

There is a type to the Vieux Barbet..

Corisande de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre.

When you see “key words” that advertise Vieux Barbet and show you pictures of puppies with very curly heads, high ears and a small head..that is misleading advertising. You work for ( or against, yes!) a breed and you have a type in mind. The Vieux Barbet has nothing to do with the many Poodle types you see nowadays here and there and everywhere. Be careful...the Vieux Barbet has a GRIFFON type with a GRIFFON HEAD as the one above..mustache falls straight on both sides of the nose, the head is NOT CURLY or FRIZZY. The body has open curls and a rough coat, not tight frizzy fine hair. AND..last but not least, JUST  because there is a Vieux Barbet in the pedigree means nothing. It is all a question of selection.