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Lucky 13, birthday boys…and girls!

Ch- Compay II ( Segundo), like the singer, is celebrating 13 years of a nice healthy fulfilled life surrounded by his mom, Coccolina ( 15 1/2) his progeny and our 5th generation. What more can you ask for? Rejoice and dance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBd4CWNPJ-I

Happy birthday wishes to his sisters Che and Cori, whom I see as often and possible. ChiChi and Colleen in Scandinavia. Caya in Le Havre France.

And a special thought to Cooper and Charly who are up there looking at us…

..and Cooldady who is now a retired Guide dog from the Lyon school.

The Vieux Griffon Barbet is threatened with extinction and not to be confused with a Barbet Moderne.

My 3 musketeers 3 years later

Here’s the short version of the 3 lil’ musketeers who grew up happily.. well, 2 of them since the 3rd disappeared off the radar.  Everyone is happy to get their pup and so happy to have a real Barbet of the old line.. and Barbet 2 on D-day starts to negotiate the price..so, she won a few€ for her pleasure and off she went. A few weeks later, I get a call at 9.30pm..her vet said a testicle was not there and blablabla (not true).. and I said,  “well, I’d have to see it.” And off the radar she went. So, morale of the story? If someone does it now? I send them straight to our professional breeders who will sell by color, and a female if you want. No no, no go with me. I get these calls regularly and off they go to get a dog by the name of Barbet Moderne. Ladida. I ask them and do not even spend time answering. And yes, I do understand that they have not a clue beyond the word “Barbet”..and the name is all they want. Not for me.


Vieux Griffon Barbet: 100 left in the world..and dwindling.

When I got into the breed, of Vieux Barbet or Vieux Griffon Barbet..I was told to stay away from the Poodle lines. They go back 100+ years ( we’re talking Wycliffe/Apiele et al).
Not all lines had Poodle in them, they do now. It’s a question of getting the type out.
An F1 litter when crossing lines as one does today is going to be a pot-pourri of all the breeds in the 2 dogs. They will be cuteandnice but useless down the…line. Unless you know your lines and not many do.
Not all lines have SWD. You can see which do.
All lines have PWD.
Some lines have IWS. It is the only line that helped as it is similar to the Vieux Griffon Barbet, when you know how to select. I know all the pedigrees back to when they made the first ones.
You don’t always inherit from the parents, but from their siblings. Keep that in mind if you do not know what they look like.
There is a bunch of still, hidden stuff like there was in ALL breeds many years ago. Suffice to ask Pro- breeders. They know. By that I mean OLD breeders not recent ones.
I have always tried to keep one or two puppies of each litter ( I have not had many, it’s not possible) to see how they grew under my roof, not dispatched and brought in for breeding.
Dealing with a nearly extinct breed is a sacrifice and passion, contrary to what some may think, is not a money making affair. It’s trial and error.
Here you have 60 dogs in my line which comes from the oldest line which is Italian, along with the one which was in the south of France.
 I can go back to the 30’s with type and you can go further with history. I have.
If you use Poodle history you will be hard put to claim a line. That’s is unless it is a Poodle line>> Barbet Moderne. It is not an ancient breed…it was created in the 1980’s in France.
Now if you breed, and claim “genetic diversity..”.. I would ask of what? Why?
What is your breeding goal and do you have a breeding plan, down the line and why have we never heard of it?
That is, with the fact there are less than one hundred of the Vieux Griffon Barbets alive today.They are not easy to come by.
Last but not least I have DNA going back 7 generations. My oldest Barbet is 15 and my youngest is 3.
It’s been 20 years now. I have most of the archives and 5 generations under my roof, going on 6, I hope.
it’s a labor of love and devotion.
The man on the moon, didn’t just fall there!

Mon amie in need, son amie indeed.

I should know better than think that friendship in the breeding world does not have a price label. In a dog eat dog world, there is always one on stand-by since making puppies >>>regardless of what they look like <<<<IS the priority.

You always pay the piper. Breeding is not for “friends”..because anything that has to do with money has nothing to do with friendship.

Integrity and having ONLY the breed as one’s main objective and wondering if the sun will ever shine on the poor Barbet is my only reason for being. Having a racer in a line and working hard for a breed to help it survive does not fit with many ambitious money dealers..merchants who make as much as the females can produce.

So, be it. I will not lower myself nor does it affect my ego to not have a super stud making pups for people who are just into sellsellsell..I have never been in it for the money…

 

Of course, it tüts a lot of us real leid, but.

Dear Carmela
Since this morning early when I read your pm, I have to admit I have been torn between extreme sadness and very extreme anger about the death of Ela Samba. It was an accident, ok..or not ok, but she is gone now. Yes, she was your companion who followed you everywhere and always wanted to make you happy and you will miss her sorely and and..and yes, … she was born in the wrong kennel: mine. She was through you, hasseled all the time, by that Swiss Kräusli club where you do what you are told, lay low and shut up or you are out. You never accepted that because you fought for her and through her, you fought for the old breed or Vieux Barbet which she represented.
She was the symbol of your resistance to Renate Zuber who has always made sure people were to stay away from because your dogs were badbadbad..since you did not want to be submissive and accept her “rules”. So, she threw you out of her Kräusli club..to make more space for her own master race and not answer any questions. I have said in the past and repeat..eugenics as a way of breeding to eradicate the old breed, is not “just” a historical concept.
Ela Samba will live on through her progeny and through Arlan de l’Aubépine..a feat not many will have ever accomplished and she did it. Thank you for all your work for the Vieux Barbet Ela Samba and Carmela. My heart and my thoughts are with you.

Retaliations being part of the Barbet world…it has been extremely difficult to support the old breed or VIEUX BARBET and those people who venture down that path..at best get slandered and at worse? Their dogs get badmouthed as “sick“..

Voilà, voilà. Nothing more to say, but the proof is there.

Ela Samba de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre. Died of complications after mammel surgery. 5.12.09-3.4.19.

Back to everyday doglife..

When all is said and done.. Coccolina is hanging in there and so is GuyGuy. Some days are better than others. He eats ok +, depending on the meal and the day, which I very as much as possible, within reason. He still demands his walk even if I have to hold him real tight, he trips a lot. I help him get in and out of the car. He can be knocked over by another dog, so I have to watch him closely when he is outside. He is very aware of everything that is going on.

I am sharing this with you because it is really important to be aware of. He is going on 13 and Coccolina is 14+.We do not have a lot of records of how long Barbets live and of couse which lines..
Neither take any medication for anything, but I do give GuyGuy what I can every so often to help him move more easily..and I massage him every morning before he “gets up” and even then, I help him stand up because like old folks, he is stiff. He weighs around 23k which is still what he has weighed most of his life. The steroids are helping him stand properly and probably move better too.
Nothing to say about Coccolina..she is a trooper!