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Griffon Boulet and Griffon Barbet..and no Poodle

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I hear people telling me about old strain ( vieille souiche) or old blood, and how ALL these professional breeders here and there are working on “getting the old strain back”..and I try not to scream. That is honky bs. HOW?

I have been getting calls/emails for puppies, from France, EU countries and as far as the West coast of the USA..People, please be a bit more aware of what you are or not, asking for.A breed threatened for extinction cannot be mass produced!

Below left is the cousin of the old strain of the Barbet, the Griffon Boulet and the Griffon Barbet are first cousins. The dog on the right could be a cross between a Poodle, a SWD or the likes. It has nothing to do with a  Vieux Barbet (vieille souche/old strain). Now if all you want is the name “Barbet”..then ask for a Barbet Moderne which is a new breed re-incarnated by JC Hermans in the 1980’s by crossing Poodles. It’s equivalent to a Labradoodle. That is not what I do, nor what I have under my roof, meaning 5 generations of  Vieux Barbet/OLD STRAIN>>Vielle souche.

Many people claim Vieux Barbet in their key/TAG words, only to sell you a lovely Poodle-type. These lovely professional breeders are everywhere, even where you think you are safe. Their mission is to sell you what they produce…only.Your dog will most likely grow up to look like a NICE Poodle, but no way a Griffon Barbet ( Vieux Barbet). Call it what you wish, but it will not happen.

Lastly, for those who do ask questions..:having Ulysse in a pedigree is a sign of nothing, and certainly NOT breeding for the Vieux Barbet..

You will not tell me that the 2 dogs below are related. They are not.This is where JC Hermans, in his better days as a pseudo “historian” led everyone to belive that 100+ years ago, the Barbet was no longer a barbet but not yet a Barbet..it was out there, in limboland ( next to LalaLand..) where all socutesonice dogs crossed and became Barbet MODERNE..I was fed that line, until 2002. Then I woke up. It’s time for you all to do the same. Better late than never…before you rush off th get the latest designer..Barbet. Don’t say you had not been warned. That is another reason why I do not recommend breeders..and certainly not in France.

There is a type to the Vieux Barbet..

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Corisande de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre.

When you see “key words” that advertise Vieux Barbet and show you pictures of puppies with very curly heads, high ears and a small head..that is misleading advertising. You work for ( or against, yes!) a breed and you have a type in mind. The Vieux Barbet has nothing to do with the many Poodle types you see nowadays here and there and everywhere. Be careful...the Vieux Barbet has a GRIFFON type with a GRIFFON HEAD as the one above..mustache falls straight on both sides of the nose, the head is NOT CURLY or FRIZZY. The body has open curls and a rough coat, not tight frizzy fine hair. AND..last but not least, JUST  because there is a Vieux Barbet in the pedigree means nothing. It is all a question of selection.