Vieux Barbet ( Barbet/Griffon de chasse)
Interesting read below about someone who has shared “experience“. When you buy a product, whatever it may be, it must correspond to specifications…and breeder’s experience, meaning predictability and in what is called “lines”.You don’t want to get a socutesonice pup that has nothing to do with what you imagined.
You want a Barbet, but which one? The old one or the new one? Or a cross? There is not just one Barbet and if that were the case, we’d all know…and the breed would not be a hodgepodge of this and that, that have nothing to do with each other, but the name..So back to square one when the barbet ( small b to diffrentiate from the Barbet breed with a standard) was a genetic term to describe a dog, any dog, ANY SIZE with a beard, a mustache and hair that grows. The reason the is a standard was to differentiate the breed from another one with another standard. Of course all dogs are cute and we love ours, but that is NOT the point.
Text below is taken from Pr. Bernard Denis’ book about genetics…called GENETIQUE ET SELECTION CHEZ LE CHIEN.2007.
The message below is very important. Again, you do not need to like or dislike what I said, or what is being said…It’s factual and experience:
I am still very much saddened that for a woman who did work for and even against… the breed, no one has been able to show a picture of her and just say nice words that one would say about a person who has died…but only refer to her “so-called” epi study from 2010 (which came after her claiming it was an allergy to chicken).Now, how can a bombshell half-desnuda breeder at shows, who claims her dogs descend from Napoleon’s poodles and refers to a Lagotto juvenile epilepsy study to ensure her “dogs” are clean of sorts and so great..be able to talk about a woman she hardly knew and was not even respected by her, at the time…this is what goes on in this Barbet world where you claim superiority not by you acts, but by your slanderous comments against others ( and they are numerous).
We do not know really when she died, where she is buried and how we can even send her family any words of support..I’d say that is rather scandalous on behalf of a club, but then…what else is new from a breed club that has nothing else to do but attack people, and slander them.
Below is a reference to a study that even Mrs Loiseau did not work on;nor did she work with anyone of any consequence in the research or scientific domaine..her study was “homemade” like many of the pedigrees we have..Poor woman anyway, that some play up for their own profit. Shame on you. She did try to bring down people with her Quebecois friends and her Swiss one, but it still is not working. I do feel sorry for all of you.I will remember the happy times, and how often we laughed…at you.
Nice to be able to keep up with some of the Barbets who have come through here. Vera was a not-happy-at-all Barbet where she lived in the Netherlands. She was accused of having bitten some people…so I drove halfway and rescued her. She spent a while here with mine. Relearned to trust people and dogs and when I thought she was ready for her nice happy family and greener pastures, she found a nice family to live with. She is now in the UK and best friends with the 2 children and a loving family. Her family gives me news every so often and I really appreciate it. Vera will be 12 next month..looking good, eh?
I am glad I did it…Vera is special to me. Must say, with the world as it is today…I would never do it again!
This is how I feel most of the time…a decoy!
History is written by those who make a commitment to truth and honesty, not by those who have nothing to say.If you ever wondered why very few ever refer to the past of a breed threatened with extinction, re-incarnated in the 1980’s and only look to the future…could it be because they have nothing to talk about , but their own future? I have most of the archives on the breed making it difficult for anyone to refer to anything but Buffon, 300 years ago…when there was not definition of breeds other than what little information about groups of dogs, that had certain characteristics in common. Our information is a bit more concrete.
Live and learn from slander at its best. I believe…it can be true but warped minds make it not happen, again 31 years later. This is from a “club des amis du Barbet” bulletin in 1984.History repeats itself! Famous last words?
Wow…the view from up here is awesome. I would love to go down there and explore…Lyon!
Last Sunday, there were a lot of extremely excited 7th group dogs ready to work and do what the breeds does best: hunt. Several had shaking limbs ( omg) and we looked at them and looked at each other chuckling since in a certain scandinavian country, if your dog has a shaky leg, your dog is a dead dog and to be eliminated from reproduction and qualified as epileptic .Them people would have had a proverbial…fieldday telling all these breeders who attend these trials regularly and were ever so proud of their working lines and descendants! Imagine.
I wonder what would have happened to me, if I had told them people…how our breed was run abroad and expertise?
I may not have made it through that day. What do you think? Sometimes it’s best to shut up? Agreed. Let them implode alone.