GuyGuy was having aches and pains as we all do at a certain age..he seems to be all better now and ready to train me..Coccolina going on 14 is doing well. Suffice to see who is panting..An added dimension to having dogs stay fit.
I hear people telling me about old strain ( vieille souiche) or old blood, and how ALL these professional breeders here and there are working on “getting the old strain back”..and I try not to scream. That is honky bs. HOW?
I have been getting calls/emails for puppies, from France, EU countries and as far as the West coast of the USA..People, please be a bit more aware of what you are or not, asking for.A breed threatened for extinction cannot be mass produced!
Below left is the cousin of the old strain of the Barbet, the Griffon Boulet and the Griffon Barbet are first cousins. The dog on the right could be a cross between a Poodle, a SWD or the likes. It has nothing to do with a Vieux Barbet (vieille souche/old strain). Now if all you want is the name “Barbet”..then ask for a Barbet Moderne which is a new breed re-incarnated by JC Hermans in the 1980’s by crossing Poodles. It’s equivalent to a Labradoodle. That is not what I do, nor what I have under my roof, meaning 5 generations of Vieux Barbet/OLD STRAIN>>Vielle souche.
Many people claim Vieux Barbet in their key/TAG words, only to sell you a lovely Poodle-type. These lovely professional breeders are everywhere, even where you think you are safe. Their mission is to sell you what they produce…only.Your dog will most likely grow up to look like a NICE Poodle, but no way a Griffon Barbet ( Vieux Barbet). Call it what you wish, but it will not happen.
Lastly, for those who do ask questions..:having Ulysse in a pedigree is a sign of nothing, and certainly NOT breeding for the Vieux Barbet..
You will not tell me that the 2 dogs below are related. They are not.This is where JC Hermans, in his better days as a pseudo “historian” led everyone to belive that 100+ years ago, the Barbet was no longer a barbet but not yet a Barbet..it was out there, in limboland ( next to LalaLand..) where all socutesonice dogs crossed and became Barbet MODERNE..I was fed that line, until 2002. Then I woke up. It’s time for you all to do the same. Better late than never…before you rush off th get the latest designer..Barbet. Don’t say you had not been warned. That is another reason why I do not recommend breeders..and certainly not in France.
My greatest achievement? Coccolina has now reached the 1500 mark of pedigrees she is in. She has been a MAJOR contributor to the type, character, health of about 1/3 of the Barbet world*. No small feat. She is the only Barbet in France to have reached the 5/6 level of the SCC selection grid. I am very lucky and blessed.
- *I’d mention color, but I do not breed for color, nor do I sell for color..
This is the pedigree before the “situation” was brought to the attention of the SCC, apparently very recently…
and when you look at the pdf all of Faro’s family is gone.DNA problem…
Super champion Faro becomes an ATI (no known ancestors).>>>Someone somewhere fibbed on the SCC papers which are legal documents and signed them attesting that what was originally declared was the truth. About 200 Barbets lost 1/2 of their pedigree in the transaction and many are now supporting the person who lied, by asking to get the full pedigree back…never mind the lie..eh. What is more important? One does wonder.
In a breed that has had so many problems over the years, you would think that most? would show their transparence…by posting/sharing DNA information rightaway and not waiting for some odd reason, 8 years later. There’s a rat somewhere along the line. As usual, par for the course, in our socutesonice Barbet world where everyone is a great 5-* breeder.
I am not surprised because “ce qui devait arriver arrivât” as many knew the pedigree was “off” and had known for several years..
Conclusion: “my” breeding half of the pedigree is one of the best in France, coupled with…the worst.
Here you can read what now defunct club says about the 2 types of population. One: the Poodle type, re-incarnated by JC Hermans which has nothing to do with the old breed.It’s called a BARBET MODERNE. Nothing to do with the standard OR HISTORY.
The other: VIEUX BARBET=> is the historical one, threatened with extinction because many have not a clue of what they are talking about…Fighting has gone on since 1980’s and it does not look like it’s about to change. I am one of the few to have archives on the real breed and my work along with some others’ is certainly not appreciated. that is life, but I maintain facts are facts and lies are lies.
Coccolina and NatK..