Tag Archives: Barbet Moderne et Vieux Barbet

My own Barbet conservatory! Evolution of my line over the years.

I will never be the world’s oldest Barbet breeder in age or in time spent breeding..I am not a breeder and that is not my claim to fame. What has been important to me and always will be is showing that, yes, you can breed out the Poodle type, work to standard, make homogenous dogs  of the old type called “Vieux Barbet” ( as opposed to Barbet MODERNE, re-incarnated in the 80’s). So, I collect Barbets and under my roof, there are 5 generations, 7 dogs, all happy and healthy and enjoying life. Anyone is welcome to come and see my live collection and documents I have available…Between Coccolina and Blue, there are 12 years difference and I enjoy every minute I can spend with them! A passion I owe to several people from the past…a passion for the VIEUX BARBET, its evolution, its history as a gundog and survival from extinction.

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Auld Lang Syne…

One of my very very favorite Barbet videos to celebrate the joy and happiness of our Barbets and through them, …ours.
We are blessed to have such, nice, happy, friendly dogs, called Barbets!
Happy New year and bless the Barbet God, because I know there is one, for Fanny de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre’s coming home after having disappeared for almost 3 months and having puppies somewhere, in the meantime….
And as it says in the song, we’re one passing through..so be kind..and enjoy life for theirs is so short.

Merci Valérie…pour ce landmark!

Coccolina’s 5th…

Steady breeding and objectives make it possible. Breeding for type, character and natural ability*( and health, of course, which goes without saying)…Lovely little Velvet is not Beethoven’s, but lovely Coccolina’s 5th generation…and I am not even a breeder!barbet_velvet

Rituals and show dogs

A few years ago, when I thought that there was really a selection…I even remember asking (..) why the points system that was created a century or more ago was not used anymore. …and then I woke up. Today, is the BIG club specialty show. There are 2 additional shows this weekend, so dogs can become great show champions  rapidly! All conditions are there. Right judges for the cause are selected( yes, there is a selection, but not the one you think)..and winners can be predicted who will take their trophies with that “suprised, oh me” smile on their face. This evening we ought to get all the feedback along with the information about their “apéritif to chitchat about the Barbet” which the pdt said we would have a full report even if we are not members. Speaking of members, it appears less and less owners are members..just can’t imagine why. Anyway, looking forward to the results, eh. Knowing the pedigree of the judges, it’s going to be easy!famousdom

Honesty is not the best global Barbet policy, but at some point many will need to be more transparent.

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In 2012, we did have access to the éminences grises of the SCC. Pr Denis has his arms folded in his back. This is when Dr Leroy is being told he would not be talking about the work he did for 6 months before…

Professor Bernard Denis has been around for many years and certainly is “aware” of what is happening to our breed and many others.

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Information courtesy of Pr Denis who will most certainly not hold it against me for sharing a page of his most interesting, understandable book.

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The last paragraph does mention the fact that people, meaning breeders ought to explain why there is so much “diversity” in a given litter…and if they want a precise type, they need to look for a breeding with higher in-breeding %…bottom line: don’t lie about what you think you know to potential buyers…they are paying a lot for what they think they are getting.

A pot de “l’amitié” has been set up for the Club show in December where everyone present can discuss the breed…Now, it may be the teacher in me, but going there to chit-chat about the coat or this and that when there are a lot of competent people around who were at some point, willing to help…are not there, seems another shot in the dark. Do you homework first and get the proper info. Why some cannot comprehend that there are varieties in a breed, is mindboggling. Then wonder no more why this and why that.

Yet another database has been set up, or revamped, or whatever you want to call it, but..this great innovation is soooooo old. Getting a symposium report out 4 years after the fact is yet another blunder to the breed.

Something to look into as a subject:

 the 1830 edition of Buffon/Daubenton, about the degeneration of animals:
https://books.google.nl/books?id=PotTAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA1…

Using Barbet blood and selecting on a Poodle type, is not helping forward the breed…Need more subjects? Just ask, or whistle.

There is only one Barbet? …Tell me to my face!?*

The SCC says the breed was “reconstructed” by using poodles( I say “et al”)…why is it such a difficult concept for some to understand that there were LOF/SCC Barbet before the breed was “re-constructed”… Before it was RE-constructed, re- means again..it was constructed and there were no Poodles…!!This is written in French for the French..who refuse to understand( they are not the only ones, sadly).

Then, on the other had when you can’t spell, how can you understand?!There may be A Barbet but there are 2 varieties…how difficult is that to comprehend? Mind_boggling what some do, when you think they ought to know better.

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http://www.chiens-online.com/nos-fiches-le-barbet-seule-race-de-chien-d-eau-francais–fiche-1874.html

  • with proof …of course.

Barbet to standard*

User comments

The Barbet standard has been modified several times in the last 30 years…and each time application was immediate by the questionable management of some . The  b-Barbet is a dog with a mustache and a beard with a wooly curly coat. That is  precise enough, isn’t it for a rustic gundog..pfffffffffffft. It’s called “genetic diversity” and the full spectrum is not represented here. With less than 50 births per year in France, for the last 30 years, strict observation of the standard is really of utmost importance, so they say. They? no comment.   * Lambs to slaughter…R Dahl.

 

 

 

 

Today is Thelma’s birthday…

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I got this lovely gift…a picture of her Grand-daughter in Sweden. Yes, there still are Old Barbets around…( Vieux Barbet). They do show up in various lines, even where there is a heavy poodle influence. Again, it’s a matter of selection. You will also recognize the type of coat that is very characteristic of my line.

https://www.pawpeds.com/db/?a=p&id=987702&g=4&p=bar&date=iso&o=ajgrep

Thank you, KB.

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