Since 2011, I have been there and been there. I have never ever promoted a link to those networks, nor advertised selling puppies. I do not tell people I am there.. You can sell and promote anything under the sun and I feel as a non-breeder that is contradictory to my code of ethics. The way some deal with information is extremely frustrating and so is the lack of solidarity, unless it’s to save rescue dogs and promote cute kitten pictures…Many leaders, have been particularly useless people, extremely frustrated would-be breeders. If they had made proper breeding choiceschoices, by using their critical thinking skills and doing research…..but did not, and often they hold positions to pour their hate of the breed… and feel the need to shine in public to get even, while others gawk. They do their best to take up space and I suspect, show their frustration. You get a dog for 12? years and if it starts out on the wrong foot, it ain’t gonna get better..unless you dump the dog on someone else. You can’t, so then? You can’t shine ..which is why social networks are the way they are. So be it. Life is not a socutesonice picture of life..sadly, it shows in their actions.
He was not enjoying life with Irish terriers so after seeing him, I alerted my Barbet soul mate who flew to Paris to pick him up and take him back to Finland to make sure he served the old breed of the Barbet. From Finland he went to Canada..Europe was dangerous for his survival, because the rumours that are spread by the swiss club are deadlier than any kind of illness..The survival of a breed does not mean making money off of it, but making sure true representatives continue the legacy, despite the lies some have spread and continue to, merrily: living space for a master Poodle race..Happy trails, Ursus..
…Nothing new..French breed club ex-caudillo, pumping chest up when speaking about the Barbet being “bel et bien un chien de chasse” despite being in the water dog group, but as usual does not back up his empty statement with any proof. As usual, who needs proof or facts when you can just throw words around, as one does most of the time.
That person never did anything about the issue in France, and so it goes on in the UK.
What is really hilarious is when presented at Crufts, no one of them green-T’d members ever mentionned “GUNDOG”…or even how it worked!
You would sort of wonder if anyone was going to say anything about how much hunting they do with their Barbet in the UK as opposed to talking about who got cutoff the picture.wtf.
When might makes right and survival of the fittest meet up..I wonder what happens then. My high school World history teacher, William Patrick Callahan ( he was Irish), told us, “if you don’t remember anything about what you learnt about Greek columns ( Ionic, Doric and??), those 2 concepts are all you need to remember about the past. I would say that would also be about the future….
Just for “fun” if that is what you can call it..I have been tapping on shoulders here and there in the Barbet world to see if. If? yes IF anything…well, I was not disappointed because: “nothing”..Now, I am not talking about the ones who are afraid to ask questions publicly, for fear of ridicule, because we all know we are supposed to know everything about a breed we are working on. However, in the Barbet world, being the way it has been, is certainly a challenge to wade through to get a semblance of coherence in anything said and /or done.
In other words, most Big Master race breeders, know it all. That’s all. They just know it all and have no reason to share any of their knowledge because it’s theirs, especially if you ask a question..indeed. They are certainly not in need of anything. Then, they tell you about breeding and color genetics and if they can’t even do that they will tell you hahaha hihihi that they have a farmer and a senorita type Barbet. Yes…left me speechless, but not for a long time.
Then, in another context, trying to get basic transparent info from another “leader”, well that was even worse. Of course, everyone who cannot say more than “like” disappears under the rug.We are talking about what goes on in the wings of power in a breed divided for 35 years in its home country with all the repurcussions abroad. So. Barbet history in 5″:Henry IV’s best friend had a Barbet. Napoleon had one too, it was socute. It is a rare breed that you can have one of,only if you pay enough money and your cv is acceptable.
We are into a very lucrative business which at some point may come to an end for those who have not a clue of what the breed stands for, other than €€££$$$$. My US history teacher would call it “galloping capitalism”.
We are making hay while the sun shines…Hey. As long as it’s called Barbet and it is status? I want one. Doesn’t matter what it looks like. It’s a Barbet and I have one now. That makes me great. Now I can show it all over to show people what I can do and how I am great with this breed. I can also show judges what I have and I have one so it is perfect to standard…( but of what??).
Standard you say? Well, we’re breeding for healthy %0 inbreeding, like you know? Low fat yogurt. Keep mixing the ingredients to get a new style, taste? Like specifications; upgrade, change the formula..that what goes in, comes out one way or the other or many others..It’s to the point where you are not really sure of what you see in the line-up. 6 different types in one litter? Rejoice! Who cares?! You have a unique specimen.. to show off with…. Did you even know the Barbet was not a couch potato? It has a working dog nose. A gundog… By work, I mean hunt. It has a history and a type that gave a standard that someone worked on for a reason . Who cares ?and anyway, a dog does not hunt with his head or his tail. Yes, I heard that.
A pig does truffles..so can a Barbet, but only if you pay a lot for it.
So I look around ( as little as possible) because it is getting scary out there, to see if there are anywhere any TRUE TO TYPE Barbets around. Historical type but not the Poodle ancestor bs.. you know the one Re-incarnated in the 80’s, by crossing mutts? I see one here and one there and I look at the pedigree and without seeing the photograph of the litter, I know there will be as many different types as breeds that went into that recipe. BUT, they are all cute and they are all Barbets that are a rare breed that we sell to elite customers who show a good cv.
So, I then look onto a forum of socutesonice dogs that look like just what I said above. This is where to protect oneself..I am censored..I know too much?
The breeders are backing their product that they put all their love into making new types and just for you. You have just bought a unique fine piece of art that I designed just for you, my socute customer. I am such a great breeder you will come and visit me every year so I can show everyone that I am sonice..I got to the top so fast, because I am so nice, and I am a breeder so I know. I will use a good bitch as long as she can produce so many different types with the same dog because he also can produce so many different types. Perfect match, eh.
I think that I did forget to repeat that all these breeders are working on the survival of this “old” French breed. It did not fit into the 5″ history of the breed that goes back into “ancient times”…
What I am sure I did not tell you is that, throughout the so organized Barbet system..there is no communication ( for fear of revealing a secret?) and little cliques who sell dogs and sadly very few who can tell you about the real breed in more than 5” flat, since we do not have time for that stuff. Well..the real breed is the one threatened with extinction and THOSE BREEDERS DO WORK TOGETHER AND HAVE FOR MANY YEARS…and they are not “just” breeders working for their Master race’s survival.
This is a bit of a follow up on breed clubs and their “work” for a breed they know very little about. They do know that they need you to believe in what they, professional breeders, are doing to help the breed called Barbet that they will tell you is so cute.What I am looking around at, is how litters are so diversified, meaning some will look like this and some like that, but very far from the true type of the Vieux Barbet..Even in France they are having a problem figuring it out these days.
All I can do as I have done for many years is be a whistle blower on these tactics of “We are the best and ignore the rest”. “We do what we want to your stupid history of the breed”.
“We are going to make only health tested dogs for anything type Barbets” that are pure( crosses) and as usual we are going to show the world how we doing it with statistics that are not complete, as said to scare people into only buying “their” perfect dogs…like you order a refrigerator.
I try to alert people and share the fact that there is a type and inform people and what happens?
Well…my information is censored! Of course it does not fit in the style of that page of that socutesonice forum …but does (alarmist) health info which should be discussed in Barbet preservation group, fit? especially when they can’T prove any of it?
As I said before and repeat, many who think they support the breed are contributing to its downfall. OK by me. I have my 5 generations under my roof as a museaum of arti-facts.
I am not pointing fingers at anyone specific at all, but protecting your own environment is contributing to the breed dying, in many cases , of your stupidity.
I am not going anywhere, and will continue to fight for the survival of the breed, as some of us ARE concerned with it, regardless of the “governing” authorities caring or not.If the Barbet is concerned. I am.
What my World history teacher would say about it? Probably something about
amnesia, dictators and useful idiots… as history goes in less than 5″.
In English AND in French…about a mega problem in the French dog world.I confirm it’s the same situation but worse for the Barbet..but after all, who am I to say?!
No names, but…
This is what I stand for, in type and character. There can be more or less white, of course. You cannot select your companion for 12 years (more or less) on the basis of a color( as in other breeds). This is a rare breed, the Vieux Barbet is threatened with extinction.This little fella is part of a line of several generations of dogs with a steady character, type and constance/continuity over the years. The French breed club is most in-cooperative in the matter, but they ALWAYS have been since the creation of the club in 1981. They only want to promote the Barbet Moderne..so be it.