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Vieux Griffon Barbet: 100 left in the world..and dwindling.

When I got into the breed, of Vieux Barbet or Vieux Griffon Barbet..I was told to stay away from the Poodle lines. They go back 100+ years ( we’re talking Wycliffe/Apiele et al).
Not all lines had Poodle in them, they do now. It’s a question of getting the type out.
An F1 litter when crossing lines as one does today is going to be a pot-pourri of all the breeds in the 2 dogs. They will be cuteandnice but useless down the…line. Unless you know your lines and not many do.
Not all lines have SWD. You can see which do.
All lines have PWD.
Some lines have IWS. It is the only line that helped as it is similar to the Vieux Griffon Barbet, when you know how to select. I know all the pedigrees back to when they made the first ones.
You don’t always inherit from the parents, but from their siblings. Keep that in mind if you do not know what they look like.
There is a bunch of still, hidden stuff like there was in ALL breeds many years ago. Suffice to ask Pro- breeders. They know. By that I mean OLD breeders not recent ones.
I have always tried to keep one or two puppies of each litter ( I have not had many, it’s not possible) to see how they grew under my roof, not dispatched and brought in for breeding.
Dealing with a nearly extinct breed is a sacrifice and passion, contrary to what some may think, is not a money making affair. It’s trial and error.
Here you have 60 dogs in my line which comes from the oldest line which is Italian, along with the one which was in the south of France.
 I can go back to the 30’s with type and you can go further with history. I have.
If you use Poodle history you will be hard put to claim a line. That’s is unless it is a Poodle line>> Barbet Moderne. It is not an ancient breed…it was created in the 1980’s in France.
Now if you breed, and claim “genetic diversity..”.. I would ask of what? Why?
What is your breeding goal and do you have a breeding plan, down the line and why have we never heard of it?
That is, with the fact there are less than one hundred of the Vieux Griffon Barbets alive today.They are not easy to come by.
Last but not least I have DNA going back 7 generations. My oldest Barbet is 15 and my youngest is 3.
It’s been 20 years now. I have most of the archives and 5 generations under my roof, going on 6, I hope.
it’s a labor of love and devotion.
The man on the moon, didn’t just fall there!

Never seen before in Barbet world: 5 generations under one roof

5 generations under one roof!

A feat no one, not even a real  breeder, in the Barbet world has ever accomplished.

To this day: to show a line and its evolution  over 5 generations . I did it. A lot of sacrifices..But I am so happy. 13 years to 5 months. All homogeneous and healthy!

I have worked very very hard over the last 15 years to get to where I wanted to be.

                   A particular type of Barbet, the historical Griffon type, as in Rose, 1887.

As the Vieux Barbet should be, as portrayed below. These are all historical references. Le Barbet n’est pas un Caniche.

I did my my way…My proudest achievement!

…back to the beginning, my beginning and the real Barbet, a Vieux Barbet that does not look like a Poodle or a crossbreed fashion designer dog. I can sit down and admire this pedigree…and thank everyone who helped achieve this major feat in the Barbet world.

My GuyGuy and the puppies..

This litter has been adorable, the pups adorable, the owners adorable..my only regret is that GuyGuy was sick at the time he could have mated Dabadoo..and I did not yet know he was ill with his gallstone issue..otherwise he would have been happy to oblige( even at his age) and Froggy would have been fit for the next litter. However, you don’t always do what you want..and it doesn’t always work out the way you want it to.

My choice to keep a male from this litter was a very hard one…and in fact til the last day, I could not decide. The decision was taken by the male himself who had decided he was going to stay.That was that.

Love to see their eyes, don’t you?!

http://www.chiens-online.com/nos-fiches-le-griffon-boulet-1er-chien-inscrit-au-lof-fiche-1502-page-9.html

If you read this in French, you should be able to get an adequate translation into your language.Where it says ,A European History, you will see that it says that :…Barbet amateurs notice some similar characteristics between the 2 breeds…as we speak, I am reading JC Hermans “ANTHOLOGIE DES CHIENS D’EAU ET DES RETRIEVERS, vol 3, p168 and it says, “Les Barbets…un instant ces chiens ont porté le nom de griffon Boulet parce que…”

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Marco, le Griffon Boulet. 1st dog LOF

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Look at the way their bangs fall over their eyes!

 

 

 

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Today is Thelma’s birthday…

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I got this lovely gift…a picture of her Grand-daughter in Sweden. Yes, there still are Old Barbets around…( Vieux Barbet). They do show up in various lines, even where there is a heavy poodle influence. Again, it’s a matter of selection. You will also recognize the type of coat that is very characteristic of my line.

https://www.pawpeds.com/db/?a=p&id=987702&g=4&p=bar&date=iso&o=ajgrep

Thank you, KB.

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Looking for identity?

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Before…                                                                      in process…cool, calm and collected…

berger_russeberger_russe2And why not the Russian Ovcharka style? I did not do the tail, because it was a bit much…but? The poor Barbet is still looking for its identity in its homeland of France with a breed club, not much concerned with where it came from, and only looking to its future as????haha.

So, since we cannot beat the club looking to destroy the breed, let’s make the Barbet another breed…Nothing new you say? Well, they’ve tried the Poodle. It is what they are on…for the time being, but with not a whole lot of references..so? And with no Frenchies speaking up to defend and protect the breed..well? Well Nothing. So, we play and laugh at idiots while we won’t cry.