I had not realized there had not been any posts for so long.. I am still every day doing “Barbet” but not always here!
Dylan Da Capo ( 14 years old) from Germany Nancy Sinatra de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre ( 3 years old)
I have something extraordinary to share with you. This is a photo taken last weekend in Finland. This is what dreams are made of. I had hoped for a long time that a picture could be taken of 2 Vieux Griffon Barbets of 2 different breeders…Just to show you they did exist before they all started looking like BIIIIIIIIIG POODLES .. Working on keeping an old breed alive is not a money making venture, that is why you see so few. They are near extinction.
This is proof again, that the man on the moon did not just fall there and that a Barbet Modern has nothing to do with a Vieux Barbet/Authentic Barbet/ Vieux Griffon Barbet.
When I got into the breed, of Vieux Barbet or Vieux Griffon Barbet..I was told to stay away from the Poodle lines. They go back 100+ years ( we’re talking Wycliffe/Apiele et al).
Not all lines had Poodle in them, they do now. It’s a question of getting the type out.
An F1 litter when crossing lines as one does today is going to be a pot-pourri of all the breeds in the 2 dogs. They will be cuteandnice but useless down the…line. Unless you know your lines and not many do.
Not all lines have SWD. You can see which do.
All lines have PWD.
Some lines have IWS. It is the only line that helped as it is similar to the Vieux Griffon Barbet, when you know how to select. I know all the pedigrees back to when they made the first ones.
You don’t always inherit from the parents, but from their siblings. Keep that in mind if you do not know what they look like.
There is a bunch of still, hidden stuff like there was in ALL breeds many years ago. Suffice to ask Pro- breeders. They know. By that I mean OLD breeders not recent ones.
I have always tried to keep one or two puppies of each litter ( I have not had many, it’s not possible) to see how they grew under my roof, not dispatched and brought in for breeding.
Dealing with a nearly extinct breed is a sacrifice and passion, contrary to what some may think, is not a money making affair. It’s trial and error.
Here you have 60 dogs in my line which comes from the oldest line which is Italian, along with the one which was in the south of France.
I can go back to the 30’s with type and you can go further with history. I have.
If you use Poodle history you will be hard put to claim a line. That’s is unless it is a Poodle line>> Barbet Moderne. It is not an ancient breed…it was created in the 1980’s in France.
Now if you breed, and claim “genetic diversity..”.. I would ask of what? Why?
What is your breeding goal and do you have a breeding plan, down the line and why have we never heard of it?
That is, with the fact there are less than one hundred of the Vieux Griffon Barbets alive today.They are not easy to come by.
Last but not least I have DNA going back 7 generations. My oldest Barbet is 15 and my youngest is 3.
It’s been 20 years now. I have most of the archives and 5 generations under my roof, going on 6, I hope.
it’s a labor of love and devotion.
The man on the moon, didn’t just fall there!
…back to the beginning, my beginning and the real Barbet, a Vieux Barbet that does not look like a Poodle or a crossbreed fashion designer dog. I can sit down and admire this pedigree…and thank everyone who helped achieve this major feat in the Barbet world.
This litter has been adorable, the pups adorable, the owners adorable..my only regret is that GuyGuy was sick at the time he could have mated Dabadoo..and I did not yet know he was ill with his gallstone issue..otherwise he would have been happy to oblige( even at his age) and Froggy would have been fit for the next litter. However, you don’t always do what you want..and it doesn’t always work out the way you want it to.
My choice to keep a male from this litter was a very hard one…and in fact til the last day, I could not decide. The decision was taken by the male himself who had decided he was going to stay.That was that.
If you read this in French, you should be able to get an adequate translation into your language.Where it says ,A European History, you will see that it says that :…Barbet amateurs notice some similar characteristics between the 2 breeds…as we speak, I am reading JC Hermans “ANTHOLOGIE DES CHIENS D’EAU ET DES RETRIEVERS, vol 3, p168 and it says, “Les Barbets…un instant ces chiens ont porté le nom de griffon Boulet parce que…”
I got this lovely gift…a picture of her Grand-daughter in Sweden. Yes, there still are Old Barbets around…( Vieux Barbet). They do show up in various lines, even where there is a heavy poodle influence. Again, it’s a matter of selection. You will also recognize the type of coat that is very characteristic of my line.