Current policy is to save the name, by re-creating a Post Moderne Barbet and selling it “well”. BlingBling and show results are much more important than anything the old breed has ever stood for. If you want a dog that looks like a Poodle…get a Poodle.
Well..if you do not have puppies, then..? Well it’s not that easy. You have an idea in mind, which is not my idea of a Barbet. What happens when it’s not YOUR idea of a Barbet.. You can end up with anything under the sun.
Prices have gone totally out of hand and if you want a real rare gem, you can have the one below for 4.500€. People will beat doors down to help save a breed from extinction, when they do not know the breed/pup they are willing to pay 3.000€ for was created in the 1990s.
In the fabulous video you will recognize alot of Barbet MODERNE “types”. Why are they so similar? Because the Barbet Moderne was created in the late 1980’s, by crossing Poodles and adding a bit of this and that. Wonder no more.
A groomer’s perfect specimen. Severeal hours of weekly grooming. This is the new breed. They are very easy to find!
When I got into the breed, of Vieux Barbet or Vieux Griffon Barbet..I was told to stay away from the Poodle lines. They go back 100+ years ( we’re talking Wycliffe/Apiele et al).
Not all lines had Poodle in them, they do now. It’s a question of getting the type out.
An F1 litter when crossing lines as one does today is going to be a pot-pourri of all the breeds in the 2 dogs. They will be cuteandnice but useless down the…line. Unless you know your lines and not many do.
Not all lines have SWD. You can see which do.
All lines have PWD.
Some lines have IWS. It is the only line that helped as it is similar to the Vieux Griffon Barbet, when you know how to select. I know all the pedigrees back to when they made the first ones.
You don’t always inherit from the parents, but from their siblings. Keep that in mind if you do not know what they look like.
There is a bunch of still, hidden stuff like there was in ALL breeds many years ago. Suffice to ask Pro- breeders. They know. By that I mean OLD breeders not recent ones.
I have always tried to keep one or two puppies of each litter ( I have not had many, it’s not possible) to see how they grew under my roof, not dispatched and brought in for breeding.
Dealing with a nearly extinct breed is a sacrifice and passion, contrary to what some may think, is not a money making affair. It’s trial and error.
Here you have 60 dogs in my line which comes from the oldest line which is Italian, along with the one which was in the south of France.
I can go back to the 30’s with type and you can go further with history. I have.
If you use Poodle history you will be hard put to claim a line. That’s is unless it is a Poodle line>> Barbet Moderne. It is not an ancient breed…it was created in the 1980’s in France.
Now if you breed, and claim “genetic diversity..”.. I would ask of what? Why?
What is your breeding goal and do you have a breeding plan, down the line and why have we never heard of it?
That is, with the fact there are less than one hundred of the Vieux Griffon Barbets alive today.They are not easy to come by.
Last but not least I have DNA going back 7 generations. My oldest Barbet is 15 and my youngest is 3.
It’s been 20 years now. I have most of the archives and 5 generations under my roof, going on 6, I hope.
it’s a labor of love and devotion.
The man on the moon, didn’t just fall there!
Why do you think there are so many breeders everywhere on the globe for such a “small” breed?
These 2 beauties are descendants of my French Lover de la serve de la chapelle d’Alexandre..and Giorgia della Corte dei Berberi in Italy. A very close cooperation since 2005. It takes time but it pays off. Vive le Vieux Barbet...in remembrance of The work of Mrs Hélène Pêtre and Mr Rainier T Georgii.
There are approximately 180 Barbet breeders in the world. 4/5 are Vieux Barbet breeders. It’s not a money making endeavour..Please do not think you will find one so easily.
Barbet Moderne breeders are a dime a dozen and their production is to sell dogs.