I could see there was something going on…And hoping it would come quickly for a question of logistics! When you have males, it sort of makes mating easier since they tell you when it is going to happen and contrary to what some think, best to leave them alone when the time comes and just keep an eye on the from afar. Major tip: make sure you stop calling them and solliciting them constantly…as some do want to keep talking . They don’t need your talking! When Vennie is ready, she will tell Froggy. Yes, that is her chasing him away. Now, they are of course totally separated and we’ll see how it goes in a few days. Fun times ahead and the realization of my 3-year + old breeding plan!