November 2016

Are you looking to widen your Barbet horizons?

http://chiendeaufrancais.com/

This site above has not  beren updated in 3 years? There have been over 3000 clicks since last week! Not happy with the nothingness you can find on the net around the Barbet and its rarity? Its history? What you are looking for may be a grand dose of Barbet truth? Fear not..it’s coming….After re-doing the history of the Poodle as many who have, and hitting the wall…I started seeking more sources, “des sources plurieles” as one says. Mostly foreign, they are which severely lacked in a lot of the “internet” copy and paste world of ours. You may like to go back through this very thorough site which is regularly updated with news of the world:

http://frenchwaterdog.org/

The history of the breed is in due process..here is a sneak preview, but don’t tell anyone. It’s a secret!

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Honesty is not the best global Barbet policy, but at some point many will need to be more transparent.

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In 2012, we did have access to the éminences grises of the SCC. Pr Denis has his arms folded in his back. This is when Dr Leroy is being told he would not be talking about the work he did for 6 months before…

Professor Bernard Denis has been around for many years and certainly is “aware” of what is happening to our breed and many others.

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Information courtesy of Pr Denis who will most certainly not hold it against me for sharing a page of his most interesting, understandable book.

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The last paragraph does mention the fact that people, meaning breeders ought to explain why there is so much “diversity” in a given litter…and if they want a precise type, they need to look for a breeding with higher in-breeding %…bottom line: don’t lie about what you think you know to potential buyers…they are paying a lot for what they think they are getting.

A pot de “l’amitié” has been set up for the Club show in December where everyone present can discuss the breed…Now, it may be the teacher in me, but going there to chit-chat about the coat or this and that when there are a lot of competent people around who were at some point, willing to help…are not there, seems another shot in the dark. Do you homework first and get the proper info. Why some cannot comprehend that there are varieties in a breed, is mindboggling. Then wonder no more why this and why that.

Yet another database has been set up, or revamped, or whatever you want to call it, but..this great innovation is soooooo old. Getting a symposium report out 4 years after the fact is yet another blunder to the breed.

Something to look into as a subject:

 the 1830 edition of Buffon/Daubenton, about the degeneration of animals:
https://books.google.nl/books?id=PotTAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA1…

Using Barbet blood and selecting on a Poodle type, is not helping forward the breed…Need more subjects? Just ask, or whistle.

There is only one Barbet? …Tell me to my face!?*

The SCC says the breed was “reconstructed” by using poodles( I say “et al”)…why is it such a difficult concept for some to understand that there were LOF/SCC Barbet before the breed was “re-constructed”… Before it was RE-constructed, re- means again..it was constructed and there were no Poodles…!!This is written in French for the French..who refuse to understand( they are not the only ones, sadly).

Then, on the other had when you can’t spell, how can you understand?!There may be A Barbet but there are 2 varieties…how difficult is that to comprehend? Mind_boggling what some do, when you think they ought to know better.

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http://www.chiens-online.com/nos-fiches-le-barbet-seule-race-de-chien-d-eau-francais–fiche-1874.html

  • with proof …of course.

Sad epitath for anyone…but typical for the Barbet world.

fl_barbetI am still very much saddened that for a woman who did work for and even against… the breed, no one has been able to show a picture of her and just say nice words that one would say about a person who has died…but only refer to her “so-called” epi study from 2010 (which came after her claiming it was an allergy to chicken).Now, how can a bombshell half-desnuda breeder at shows, who claims her dogs descend from Napoleon’s poodles and refers to a Lagotto juvenile epilepsy study to ensure her “dogs” are clean of sorts and so great..be able to talk about a woman she hardly knew and was not even respected by her, at the time…this is what goes on in this Barbet world where you claim superiority not by you acts, but by your slanderous comments against others ( and they are numerous).

We do not know really when she died, where she is buried and how we can even send her family any words of support..I’d say that is rather scandalous on behalf of a club, but then…what else is new from a breed club that has nothing else to do but attack people, and slander them.

Below is a reference to a study that even Mrs Loiseau did not work on;nor did she work with anyone of any consequence in the research or scientific domaine..her study was “homemade” like many of the pedigrees we have..Poor woman anyway, that some play up for their own profit. Shame on you. She did try to bring down people with her Quebecois friends and her Swiss one, but it still is not working. I do feel sorry for all of you.I will remember the happy times, and how often we laughed…at you.Loiso

http://chiendeaufrancais.com/articles.php?pg=art242

 

A legend of the Barbet world has passed on.

Rumour has it that Mrs Françoise Loiseau has passed on. She represented the Barbet for several years at the club and was a close friend of Mrs R Rault who protected her* . I will certainly be one of the first to thank her for being the first to talk about “home-made pedigrees” and reveal quite a bit of information about the pre- 2000 period of the club…she knew a lot about what went on….and I heard more than I can ever have imagined.She was my inspiration to investigate the breed and its history.
She gave me my lovely Thelma Lou against a case of wine and was never into making money on the breed.That was never her objective.
When I used to visit her while her companion Alain, was alive, we had a great time together and she told me a lot about the breed, the people and who was who.I learned a lot from her, until she turned on me for very personal reasons. I did visit her 2 years ago, and I was happy to see her. I think she was also pleased I stopped by.Loiso

The picture below is from 2002 and my Thelma Lou is one of those pups.

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I hope she has a better life where she is now, because she did not have the happiest life here on earth.
When she was finally allowed to resign, ( she was not allowed to for political reasons*) she basically became a recluse and never wanted to hear about the breed again. That happens to many who have suffered through a particular regime.

The  French breed club, as a tribute to her, did not wait long to show (medical homemade) “proof” about how the CNRS AND Finland do not know their job when one person alone resolved the issue of epi in the breed Barbet  sitting in her kitchen in 2009 with a lengthy report published early 2010…the objective at the time, because I was there and still am, was to bring down dogs and breeders…and then the rumours started, by several sitting around that table in 2009…about how you should not touch this or this dog, and stay away from this or this breeder, from the mouth of our great showdog winner.. because he or she was sick ( dog and owner, of course) et blablabla, which still goes on to this date because perpetrated by several who attended the 2009 “meeting”( link below) ..well it’s interesting so many years later to wonder…

I had asked Mr Hermans about the health of “his” line and he said there were NO HEALTH PROBLEMS anywhere, and I bet he would say it today…and then, he proceeded to accuse Mrs Loiseau of having nothing BUT sick dogs…but then…they have the same ancestors as all the others…?!Don’t they? And if you look at the names of the countries where the litters were born, there’s obviously one country, a hop skip and a jump away from me, where there is NO epilepsy..humhum and the main breeder is even thanking Mrs Loiseau for what she did..then why go to Bern, then?
Another slice of history is unveiled, since the very competent breed club now requires anti epi certificates for ALL dogs that reproduce here in France…and ceci explique cela…Well I have them for my dogs…and Bijou and Booly Wooly..tada.Now, if you look at some pedigrees of dogs that have never reproduced a hop skip and a jump away…which I did wonder a few weeks ago when looking at Ungaro progeny…humhum.

Another bit of Barbet history with another stone laid to rest.We all know yhat history started with the Canailles de Verbaux and many of us have done our best to stay away from them…so rumours or proof? Decide for yourself.

I think showing pedigrees as a tribute to what she contributed to the breed is a pretty interesting tribute…as Mrs Loiseau did work against the club for many years until they got her back in on the committee so they could control her…sounds familiar and that is why I thought to myself..never in a million years will I ever touch that deal, not even with a 10-foot pole.

Thank you Philippe Seguela for writing in a letter that the club WAS offering me a seat on the committee..

Françoise did not always have a nice life. I am sure of that. Now, she is happy where she is.
Bless you Françoise…

Your legacy will live on!

http://chiendeaufrancais.com/articles.php?pg=art194

*not the topic of this day, but it will all fall into place as to why she was not allowed to resign…